4 Questions Amateur Photographers Need to Stop Asking – And What They SHOULD Ask Instead

Feb 7, 2015

Jenna Martin

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4 Questions Amateur Photographers Need to Stop Asking – And What They SHOULD Ask Instead

Feb 7, 2015

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“Love your photos! What kind of camera do you have?”

“… …”

Look, I get it. I’ve been there. Being an amateur photographer is tough for a lot of reasons, but a large one is having to humbly ask questions you desperately wish you didn’t have to say out loud. At some point in our lives, every professional has started out as an amateur. We’ve all been on the other side of the coin, secretly trying to make sense of all the photo technical jargon while still trying to appear like a coherent adult that deserves to own a camera.

Photographers are irritated by this question because when someone asks this, they are essentially reducing their entire profession to what they are currently holding in their hand. It happens a lot, and the insult is literally always on accident, but that doesn’t mean hearing it gets any easier. But while my blood boils every time I get asked this, I just have to tell myself to chill the eff out. It’s my fault for being annoyed, not yours. I know you don’t mean to be insulting; you just want to learn. You’re simply trying to figure out a little more about the process, and asking about the camera is your go-to step one. And that’s what everyone does! Hell I did the same thing as a newbie – upon observing the fact that my point-and-shoot just wasn’t achieving the same effect as a pro, the question out of my mouth to any photographer that would listen was, “What kind of camera do you have?” I was naive and stupid and I didn’t know any better.

But now I do know better. It’s not that it’s a stupid question, it’s just that it’s not the best question, and sometimes rewording things just a bit can get you a much more useful answer. It’s not that pros are mean or anything, they’re just human beings, and human beings respond differently to different questions. So in the spirit of helping new photographers get the information they’re actually after (while at the same time avoiding pissing off every established photographer they ever hope to learn from one day), lets lay down a few ground rules.

Note: Don’t think I’m discouraging you from asking questions. That’s not the case at all. None of the following questions listed below are stupid or ‘bad’ questions, it’s just that they can’t be answered with any kind of valuable information that will help you progress. If you’re going out of your way to ask a pro for their insight (which, good for you), at least phrase your questions in a way that will render some useful answers.

Don’t: “What kind of camera do you have?”

Here’s the interaction I’m trying to avoid here, which happens time and time again, especially in an online setting:

Newbie: “Love this photo! What kind of camera do you have?”

Pro: “Thank you! I shoot with a Nikon D600 :).”

Newbie: “Thanks so much!”

See, asking what kind of camera another photographer uses does nothing for your development. What useful information can I possibly answer that question with? I shoot a Canon 5D Mark II. Great. Is that what you wanted? To see me hold something and now know it’s technical name? Does that mean anything different to you than if I would’ve answered with Nikon D600 or a Leica M-P (Typ 240)? Probably not. Best case scenario I’ve barely given you something to Google when you get home, provided you can even spell out my answer correctly. That’s not snark or sarcasm either, that’s just an example from personal experience. The first time I asked a photographer what they shot, I didn’t understand the words “Canon 5d Mark II.” I thought she said something like “Canon ID Markadoo.” I went home and entered horribly misspelled words into the search bar until Google finally said, “Dude, give it up! The Markadoo isn’t coming out any time soon, why don’t you just take a look at a Mark II instead?”

Instead: “Why do you prefer that camera over others?”

I know why you’re asking about the camera because I’ve been there too. Secretly, what you’re really thinking is, “I don’t know what kind of camera to get. I like the photos this photographer takes, if I want to produce similar quality pictures, surely I should get the same camera they currently have. That makes sense, I’ll ask what it is.” But that’s where we have a problem: even though “What kind of camera do you have?” is a valid question, it’s not going to answer the actual question you have in your head.

However, asking a photographer why they prefer that specific camera can give you boatloads of information, and get them to open up. In my case, I need a decent full-frame camera, compatible with a large majority of lens types that’s in my price range. I also prefer Canon’s menu system to that of Nikon or Sony; it’s just easier for me to understand for some reason. There are countless other reasons I’ve decided to make this my go-to camera, many of them completely insignificant (I love the way the shutter sounds), and if you ask me about it in person I’ll talk your ear off, and in social media or through email you’ll get a whole paragraph of reasoning. I’ll also mention that while I’m using this camera for this particular shoot, I’m also currently building a film franken-camera in my basement, and it’s thisclose to being useable, then I’ll list off everything I’m looking forward to in the Mark III and how I may or may not be contemplating taking out a second mortgage as soon as the Mark IV is released.

Now, instead of just the name of a make and model, you have a whole list of pros and cons. That’s the good stuff. That’s what’s really going to help you make the decision about what kind of camera to get. So if you want to talk gear, this is how you break the ice.

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Don’t: “What were your settings for this shot?”

Settings are useless. Stop asking about settings. They are completely irrelevant. Imagine going to a restaurant and having this conversation with the chef:

You: “Wow, what a fantastic meal!”

Chef: “Why, thank you!”

You: “Can you tell me what the oven was set to?”

Chef: “Um…I’m sorry, did you mean for the prime rib? Or the roasted asparagus. Or the soufflé…”

You: “Just the soufflé. I really liked it, I’d like to make it at home. What was the oven set to for the soufflé?”

Chef: “That was at a temperature of 350 degrees.”

You: “Great! Thank you!”

Later you return home and attempt to make a soufflé, without a recipe, without knowing how long to leave it in the oven or how long to let it rest, causing you to become horribly frustrated with your inability to produce the same result.

Sound a little familiar? It’s the same thing with photography. Camera settings are incredibly specific to the situation. A shutter speed of 1/50, ISO 2000 at an aperture of 2.8 might make perfect sense for a still life shot at a wedding in a candlelit church, but as soon as the light barely changes (someone opens a door, or a cloud rolls by), an adjustment needs to be made and the settings need to be changed. The settings are just a piece of the puzzle, and without the rest of the pieces, you’re kind of stuck. You can’t learn from just the settings – you need to know the context they’re being used in.

Instead: “What was the process for this shot?”

So instead of asking for the oven temp, ask for the recipe! What was their process for achieving this shot? How did they set it up? What look did they want to achieve and how did they think through everything they needed to do? The settings will be included, but now you’ll understand the context they’re being used in. Now instead of rattling off “1/200, ISO 100, f1.8,” they can tell you they were looking for a smooth bokeh background, so they shot with a wide aperture for the shallow depth of field. They’ll explain how the room was crazy bright, so they had to crank their shutter speed to combat some of the light, then they placed their client in just the right place where the light happened to be reflecting from a mirror behind them, giving their hair that perfect rim light they were looking for. See how that works? Now you’ve got a whole recipe to practice with!

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Don’t: “What Photoshop action/filter did you use?”

Take it back. Take it back now. Are you fucking kidding me? Filters are for Instagram. Actions are a baseline that you sure as hell better be tweaking later. Did you really think someone clicked a button and the entire photo came together? No. That’s what the general public thinks, but if you’re in the minors hoping to go pro, you should damn well know better. Post-processing requires just as much skill and finesse as the shooting itself. This question makes me want to steal your car and drive it into a lake.

Gimme a second, let me breath…Ok. Don’t worry, I just get a little worked up about Photoshop. As a fine-art photographer there’s definitely a love/hate relationship there…so that may have just come off as a little bit psycho-lady…sorry about that.

Remember, this is conversation we’re trying to avoid:

Newbie: “What action did you use for this?”

Pro: “I didn’t use an action. I adjusted it in Photoshop.”

Newbie: “Great, thanks!”

Not much to go off there, is there?

Instead: “Can you talk a little bit about your post-processing for this shot?”

Ok, that’s better. Asking a photographer to talk about their post-processing acknowledges the fact that you know there is some post-processing involved, you don’t know what it is, you’d like to learn more about it and you aren’t reducing it to the simple act of clicking a button. A true pro will explain to you the delicate art of color toning, adjusting curves layers, dodging, burning, frequency separation and a whole lot of other factors.

Oh and by the way, Photoshop haters, don’t you dare quote Ansel Adams in the comment section. Ansel spent some serious time in the darkroom doing about as much photo manipulation as was humanly possible. I’d like to think if he were alive today he’d have a freakin’ heyday with Photoshop…also we’d be best friends.

Photoshop is an essential tool that many photographers use, but it’s a beast, and it’s widely misunderstood. It’s not a quick fix and it’s especially not anything that can be used to save a crappy photo (which is, by and large, the main reason Instagram filters exist). If you’re going to ask about it, ask in a way that conveys the respect it deserves.

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Don’t: “What does bokeh mean? What is a zoom lens? What’s the difference between auto and manual focus?”

Google. YouTube. Use them.

Don’t get me wrong now, it’s not that these are bad questions; I was full of all the same ones when I first started. But if you’re aspiring to be a professional photographer and you haven’t even taken the time to Google any of the above inquiries, don’t expect anyone to take you seriously when you ask. It takes 4 seconds to find countless, clear-cut, well-worded definitions…with pictures. I’m willing to spend hours with you going over even the most basic aspects of photography, but I have to know you’re putting in the same amount of effort learning this stuff as I am teaching it. So meet me halfway – the more time you spend researching the easy stuff, the more time we can spend together going over much more complicated topics, like marketing strategies and pricing structures.

Think about it this way: if you were a writer and had one hour to interview Stephen King, you wouldn’t want waste time asking him the difference between a noun and a verb, right? Of course not. Those are easily answered questions you can do on your own. Saving the tough questions for Stephen not only gives you more time to talk about the really in-depth stuff, but it also shows you’re serious about being an author and you respect him enough to not waste his time answering the same questions a Yahoo forum can answer.

(While we’re on the subject of writers, I’ll allow this moment for any grammar nazi jokes by those that can’t overlook the fact that I’m a photographer, not a writer. So go ahead….get it out of your system…a few more seconds…aaaaand we’re done.)

Instead: “I’ve spent a lot of time looking this up online, but I’m still really confused about it. Can you tell me what aperture means?”

Still got a super basic question and you just can’t find it online? No problem. Sometimes it’s just hard to find stuff if you don’t know what you’re looking for. If I know you’ve at least tried and haven’t been able to find the answer you need, of course I’ll take the time to help you out, and so will many other pros. Just show us the effort and you’re golden :).

In the end, you should never be afraid to ask,but I know when I first started, it took months of frustration to get the answers I was looking for. It’s not that people were being stingy with their info – I was just asking the wrong questions. Hopefully a few of these variations will help you get the answers you’re looking for too.

About The Author

Jenna Martin is a conceptual photographer from Billings, MT. She specializes in creating alternate, dream realities through photographs. She also provides online training. You can follow her wonderful writings here, her facebook here and her twitter here. This article was originally published here.

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38 responses to “4 Questions Amateur Photographers Need to Stop Asking – And What They SHOULD Ask Instead”

  1. misskay Avatar
    misskay

    I sometimes hate/cringe at these questions too, but this is a terrible article/advice! This is how you encourage other artists? We have ALL been there before, so a little patience and less disdain would go a long way. Your attitude only adds to your own frustration, so empathy benefits all involved.

    YOU can facilitate these conversations without putting the onus on the newbie.

  2. John Fluerian Avatar
    John Fluerian

    Translation: “Beginner, either act like you’re not a beginner or ask me these pre-approved questions to prove you’re worth more than my contempt.”

  3. Ignasi Jacob Avatar
    Ignasi Jacob

    Practise and you’ll get answers.

  4. derek byrne Avatar
    derek byrne

    It’s also why I dislike Photographers.

  5. Ben Cassidy Avatar
    Ben Cassidy

    4 questions photographers should stop asking amateur photographers to stop asking.

  6. rob Avatar
    rob

    Love your self much? This has to be the worst advice given. You hold beginners in utter contempt. A question phrased in the way you want it ; why do you prefer snobbery over civility? DIY photography removed from my feed.

  7. Wayne Ellyson Avatar
    Wayne Ellyson

    Ben Cassidy nailed it. Thread over.

  8. John Murray Avatar
    John Murray

    I agree with the questions, but as the “professional” to answer the questions in the manner you suggested is to miss a valuable teaching moment. You said yourself you have been there before, so you know what the newbie might want to actually know. Why not go an extra step and guide them to that answer. I have found that photographer’s who love their craft are also teachers of the craft. One stupid question was how I met my instructor.

  9. Justin Barr Avatar
    Justin Barr

    If you’re in the middle of a shoot, yeah they can be annoying. But if they like your work enough to inquire about it, don’t get aggravated. “I use a Sony A77ii. But a lot more goes into the shot than the camera. What do you like about the picture and I can tell you how I got it to look that way.”

    Don’t be pretentious. We’ve all been there and until you know the ins and outs of photography, you don’t know what question to ask. Most people are familiar with cameras so they start there. Starting out I didn’t know what bokeh was or how to achieve it. Help out new photogs and eventually they’ll be able to help you.

    1. David Magee Avatar
      David Magee

      You sir nailed it and deserve allot more likes! ;-)

    2. Justin Barr Avatar
      Justin Barr

      Heh thanks. Having been in that position not long ago I understand the questioning. And if you don’t know the trade you don’t know what to ask.

    3. Jenna Martin Avatar
      Jenna Martin

      Hey Justin! Ha I’m the one the wrote the article – quite awhile ago – and I get crucified every time it gets shared. I agree with what you here, and was really trying to help :/.

      I have a pretty snarky writing style, I get that. I don’t really know any other way. But I do know when I started people wanted to help, but I just wasn’t asking the right questions. If I had just rephrased things slightly, it really would’ve helped me out. That’s what I was trying to do here. Not say that pros are pretentious assholes, just that in every profession, some sneaky rephrasing might get you some better info :).

      Glad there are photographers like you here though, that’s what the profession needs :)

      1. Joshua Boldt Avatar
        Joshua Boldt

        thanks for saying you wrote this quite a while ago, I was like wow I swear I have read this before

    4. Justin Barr Avatar
      Justin Barr

      I get it but it just comes with the territory. Heck any job gets these kinds of questions. If anyone looks at my work and takes time to ask me about it, I’ll gladly answer them. That’s what’s great about photography. You don’t have to be an expert to know whether or not you like a picture. And if you like a picture enough, but aren’t familiar with the details that go into creating the shot, you can’t help but ask the basic questions.

      I’ve asked a stupid amount of dumb questions as I got started. Some people would scoff at me but a few took time to help and I’m forever grateful to them for it. I’ve just recently moved into the pro photog world but I try to help others every chance I can.

    5. Jenna Martin Avatar
      Jenna Martin

      Oh I definitely agree, and if it’s an in-person encounter I’ll talk their ear off. but every photographer isn’t like that…

      I remember the first time I noticed someone shooting with something other than canon. Not that I knew what it was or anything, I just knew it was different than what I did know. I asked “Why” instead of “What” and i gained so much more info! I was totally bummed I hadn’t been asking that question all along, I would’ve saved myself so much heartache!

      I’m trying to help too – some people just can’t quite see past the sarcasm side of it. Which I admit can seem a little jarring, but hey, I’m not much of a sugar-coating person anyway ;)

    6. Justin Barr Avatar
      Justin Barr

      I shoot with Sony so I get the Why question from everyone.

  10. Stephen Masiello Avatar
    Stephen Masiello

    I remember an interaction with a pro years ago. My questions were met with major eye rolls. Now that I know what I’m doing, I often get those same questions. It’s difficult to find a way to say “all the things you think are important, really aren’t”. Usually I go with something like “Everything that makes a great photo appealing (subject, light, color, etc.) happens outside the camera”

  11. Mike Ferguson Avatar
    Mike Ferguson

    Well that was an unpleasant read. Your effort to make what you thought were valid points and unsuccessfully distance yourself from a “snark” label were sabotaged by crude language (I know, you were just “keepin’ it real”) and…well…snark. Perhaps decaf might help. Or spending more time around kittens and children. I dunno. I’m sure you are a lovely, helpful and sharing person. But next time take a nap, eat a big bowl of ice cream (but only after searching Google for the best flavors of course) and THEN craft your article. This piece was a public vent.

  12. Wayne Hanner Avatar
    Wayne Hanner

    The wrong question is the one you don’t ask…. If you don’t understand….ask, ask, ask!

  13. Marius Budu Avatar
    Marius Budu

    Better (I suppose) but still focused on the tools and not the story, idea, inspiration. You have learned nothing photography community… nothing.

  14. Paul Lettow Avatar
    Paul Lettow

    Jenna Martin sounds like a liberal control freak.

  15. Marius Budu Avatar
    Marius Budu

    Still focused on the tools and not the story, idea, inspiration. You have learned nothing photography community… nothing.

  16. Sandi Avatar
    Sandi

    I’m a writer working on learning to be a good photographer. Jenna, your writing is great. I looked at the comments and was surprised nobody understood this excellent article. Grow up people. I very much appreciated the advice and will apply it. I’ll share one experience with editing a novel. Back in the day when desktop computers were new, I was handed a 200-page manuscript, typewritten on both sides. There were no chapters, dialog, or transitions. The guy did have a great story and because it was so good, I spent days and days polishing it brightly, adding chapters, dialog, and transitions – on my new computer. When I was done, it was accepted by a famous New York agent. I should have asked for co-writer status, but let it go for the experience. When I moved, I wanted to give him my contact info for future editing. This man actually said to me, “Thanks, but I don’t need your help anymore, I bought a computer.” To this day, I grit my teeth when I tell that story.

  17. Elias Avatar
    Elias

    “you must have a really good camera” sentence makes me wanna slap someone with the offensive side of the hand, each time

  18. Sammy Fargerik Avatar
    Sammy Fargerik

    Which button do I have to press for taking a photo?

  19. Ralph Hightower Avatar
    Ralph Hightower

    I was walking along the riverfront taking photos and saw one guy taking cellphone photos since he was holding it at arms length. Walking back, I saw another photographer with his camera, white lens with red ring, and monopod. okay, I’ve been a Canon photographer since 1980 and white lenses with red rings are Canon. I asked him what lens he was shooting with. He said 70-200; I asked 2.8 or 4. He answered 2.8.

    What do you shoot?
    Oh, a bunch of different films: Kodak Tri-X, Ektar, Portra.
    They still make film?
    Yes. There’s a company, Ilford, that only produces B&W film. Kodak has gotten out of slide film, but Fuji still makes it. Kodak and Fuji still make color films for prints.

    Don’t: “What kind of camera do you have?”
    Instead: “Why do you prefer that camera over others?”
    Me: When I started researching what camera to buy in the late 70’s, Canon was state of the art with their A-1 for shutter priority and aperture priorty modes, plus program mode. Shutter priority is usefull for freezing action or for producing the illusion of speed. Aperture priority is great for how much of the scene is going to be in focus.

    Don’t: “What were your settings for this shot?”
    Instead: “What was the process for this shot?”
    Me: Until I downloaded EXIF4Film for my Android, I didn’t record shutter speed, aperture, ISO, or film used; I did use Evernote to record information. With my DSLR, it’s recorded; I will adjust the exposure triangle for a fast or slow shutter speed.

    Don’t: “What Photoshop action/filter did you use?”
    Instead: “Can you talk a little bit about your post-processing for this shot?”
    Me: I use minimal post processing. If it doesn’t looks like it exists in nature, then it didn’t happen.

    Don’t: “What does bokeh mean? What is a zoom lens? What’s the difference between auto and manual focus?”
    Instead: “I’ve spent a lot of time looking this up online, but I’m still really confused about it. Can you tell me what aperture means?”

    Okay, some of these can be done with Google or books. I bought my first SLR when film was the only thing and learned of the exposure triangle, shutter speed, aperture, and ISO, through books. Now, there is auto ISO and color temperature.

  20. cbenci Avatar
    cbenci

    This article is pretentious, self-serving and a waste of time.

    There is such thing as a stupid question.

    Ask me whatever you want and I will answer as best I can and you never know, that ‘beginner’ (said completely sarcastically) just might have something for me in return.

    1. cbenci Avatar
      cbenci

      * edit – There is no such thing as a stupid question.

  21. JP Danko Avatar
    JP Danko

    Does anyone else love the accompanying photos or is it just me?

  22. Joshua Boldt Avatar
    Joshua Boldt

    “also we’d be best friends” made me laugh

  23. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    Well… you don’t have to be a writer in order to write grammatically correct. All those things were learn in primary and secondary school.
    What you were saying it’s like saying that you have to be an engineer in order to use a photo camera in the right way.

  24. ET Galim Avatar
    ET Galim

    What is a photo?

  25. Ray Foster Avatar
    Ray Foster

    GREAT post, Jenna! We all go through this to some degree or another. I hope that all “newbies” take this to heart, and try to learn something. It’s a complicated process, and they need to understand that every situation is somewhat unique. There is so much information available online to everyone! Why, oh why don’t they avail themselves?? Those often repeated questions are simply indications that some folks out there are a bit lazy, and are looking for that silver bullet that will make them a valid “photographer.” It’s a really easy gig, right? Nope, it takes lots of hard work, education, trial and error, fortitude, desire…the list is almos endless…keep going! Those who “get it” will succeed, but those who don’t will keep asking the questions.

  26. mike Avatar
    mike

    I don’t think the author deserves hate for this article, but it is rather poorly conceived. It seems to be caught between loathing non-professionals while acknowledging that everyone was a noob once.

    Sure, with the internet there is no reason for anyone to be totally ignorant about anything anymore; but everyone has done it at least once about something or other. Instead of making it seem like one is blaming beginners for being… well… beginners, perhaps focus on how people can get started out.

    Now if it was a matter of people who refuse to pick up a book or read a website and just expect to grab a camera with a manual setting and expect it to magically work… yeah it is totally reasonable to be frustrated if not outright rude.

    That being said, based on the pictures and her website, Jenna really knows her stuff when it comes to photography.

  27. Doug Sundseth Avatar
    Doug Sundseth

    The audience for this article is beginners/near beginners who want to ask questions to get information. Asking the questions suggested by Jenna Martin is more likely to elicit useful information than asking the questions she deprecates.

    Further, the prospective questioner is not only told what questions to ask, but why, and why the first questions that come to mind are either unhelpful or actively harmful to the interaction.

    This is not, as far as I can tell, advice for the photographer who is answering the questions. An especially helpful photographer might treat the unhelpful questions as if they were the recommended questions instead, but an article on how to answer beginners’ questions is a task for a different day.

    Very nicely handled advice.

    ps. To the commenter who said, “Well… you don’t have to be a writer in order to write grammatically correct. All those things were learn in primary and secondary school”, I commend to your attention Muphry’s Law.

  28. Jono Avatar
    Jono

    I took up photography about 18 months ago, because I won a mirrorless camera in competition. I was also lucky enough to be able to spend a weekend with some professional photographers from all over the world (part of the competition prize), so I thought I’d better use the opportunity to learn as much as I could, because up until that point all of my photos had been taken with a compact camera on the “auto” setting….

    Make of camera wasn’t something that came up, as we were all using the same make and model anyway. I knew some of the basics such as “higher ISO means more sensitivity to light” (from the days of film cameras, although I had no idea what ISO meant) and “the longer the shutter is open, the more light gets in” from when we made a pin-hole camera at school. Aside from that though I was a complete novice, so I assumed the form of a sponge and absorbed everything I could. When someone said “I achieved this photograph by using these settings” I’d chime in with something like “is that how you got the background blurry while the foreground is in focus?” (I didn’t know what bokeh was and it wasn’t a term I’d ever come across). I learned about DOF, motion blur, the way that ISO, shutter speed and aperture value all work together, and a whole lot more besides.

    In my own experience, I haven’t come across anyone yet who hasn’t been more than willing to help me out when I’ve been stuck. I’ve since traded in the mirrorless camera for a used DSLR and an 18-250mm lens, since I quickly found that the 18-55mm kit lens that came with my original camera wasn’t up to much when out and about taking photos of wildlife etc. Budget dictated my choice of camera rather than what everyone else was using though. I’ve tried using photoshop, and while I can perform basic functions like selective colouring and cloning, I much prefer the user-friendliness of Lightroom, but that’s just me.

    18 months on and I’m still learning and experimenting, but without the friendship and advice from the photography community along the way, I would probably still be drowning in jargon and muddling on without any ideas of what I’m doing, I do at least have some idea now (I hope). I just hope that one day I’ll be in a position to help someone as much as people have helped me….

  29. mMargoB Avatar
    mMargoB

    Snob! Plain n simple!

  30. John Avatar
    John

    It always makes me laugh when someone claiming to be a Photographer and knowing all about it attaches such poor, blurred and lacking in contrast photos to their article.